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It is possible to create a detailed trace of what the program do during the startup to help to find the reason for this delay.
For that open a command prompt windows, use cd to change to the directory where skychart is installed, start the program with: skychart.exe --verbose
See attached screenshot.
Close the program, open the Windows file explorer, in the address bar type: %LOCALAPPDATA%
Open the skychart directory here, there is a file cdc_trace.txt, upload this file here. |
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Response from David Moore:
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Start trace
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Program version : 4.2.1-4073-ee8141c3
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Program compiled: 2019/11/24 15:48:06
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Compiler version: Lazarus 2.0.6.0 Free Pascal 3.0.4 Win64-x86_64-mswindows
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Screen scaling : True
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Screen scale : 139%
2022-04-29T15:06:39.146 Try language: en_GB, en
2022-04-29T15:06:39.161 Language: en
2022-04-29T15:07:15.770 Connected to the SQL database C:\Users\moore\AppData\Local\Skychart\database\cdc.db
2022-04-29T15:07:15.902 Listen on port: 3292
Please tell me if this arrived as your procedures are difficult to follow |
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Sorry for the insufficient instruction.
I copy your response in the original report, when replying you can click the link at the top of the email to add your response without opening a new issue.
This link also allow you to see the screenshot.
This is the right file, and it show a 35 second delay where it normally take less than one second.
But this is not the detailed verbose trace, there is about 45 individual steps between the message at 15:06:39 and the one at 15:07:15, so it is important for me to get this detail.
You can also set the verbose option by modifying the skychart shortcut on the desktop, maybe this is more easy than the command line.
Process as follow (also see the screenshot):
- right click the skychart icon on the desktop
- select Properties
- open the Shortcut tab
- in the "Target:" field add at the end --verbose
the full line must be : "C:\Program Files\Ciel\skychart.exe" --verbose
- click OK
- run skychart by a double click on this icon
Copy the new file cdc_trace.txt as you do. |
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cdc_trace.txt (7,292 bytes)
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Start trace
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Program version : 4.2.1-4073-ee8141c3
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Program compiled: 2019/11/24 15:48:06
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Compiler version: Lazarus 2.0.6.0 Free Pascal 3.0.4 Win64-x86_64-mswindows
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Privatedir: C:\Users\moore\AppData\Local\Skychart
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Appdir: C:\Program Files\Ciel
2022-04-29T17:25:36.698 Scaling
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Screen scaling : True
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Screen scale : 139%
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Language
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Try language: en_GB, en
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Language: en
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Multiframe
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Size control
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Load zlib
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Load plan404
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Load cdcwcs
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Multiframe border
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Bitmap
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Load timezone
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 SAMP
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Toolbar
2022-04-29T17:25:36.713 Script panel
2022-04-29T17:25:36.730 Load Healpix library
2022-04-29T17:25:36.730 SetLang
2022-04-29T17:25:36.746 Exit Tf_main.FormCreate
2022-04-29T17:25:36.746 Create splash
2022-04-29T17:25:36.746 Show splash
2022-04-29T17:25:36.762 Create f_position
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_search
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_zoom
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_getdss
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Loadlibrary libgetdss.dll
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Library ok
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_manualtelescope
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_detail
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_info
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_calendar
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create Tf_image
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_printsetup
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_print
2022-04-29T17:25:36.777 Create f_obslist
2022-04-29T17:25:36.793 Create f_edittoolbar
2022-04-29T17:25:36.793 Create f_mosaic
2022-04-29T17:25:36.793 Main Init
2022-04-29T17:25:36.793 Enter Tf_main.Init
2022-04-29T17:25:36.793 SetDefault
2022-04-29T17:26:12.840 ReadDefault
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 Create forms
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 InitDS2000
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 Load deltat
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 Create DB
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 Background Image
2022-04-29T17:26:12.856 Constellation
2022-04-29T17:26:13.204 Connect DB
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 DB connected
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 Connected to the SQL database C:\Users\moore\AppData\Local\Skychart\database\cdc.db
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 Cursor
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 Compass
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 Starshape file
2022-04-29T17:26:13.206 Timezone
2022-04-29T17:26:13.214 Init calendar
2022-04-29T17:26:13.214 Create default chart
2022-04-29T17:26:13.214 Create new chart
2022-04-29T17:26:13.274 SkyChart : Init chart
2022-04-29T17:26:13.289 Read params
2022-04-29T17:26:13.289 Start server
2022-04-29T17:26:13.289 InitScript
2022-04-29T17:26:13.305 Socket error 10048 Address already in use.
2022-04-29T17:26:13.305 Socket error 10022 Invalid argument.
2022-04-29T17:26:13.305 Listen on port: 0 (different than the configured port, maybe busy or other error.)
2022-04-29T17:26:13.403 InitScript end
2022-04-29T17:26:13.403 Exit Tf_main.Init
2022-04-29T17:26:13.403 Application Run
2022-04-29T17:26:13.403 Chart_1 ChartResize
2022-04-29T17:26:13.403 Chart_1 ChartResize
2022-04-29T17:26:13.419 Enter Tf_main.FormShow
2022-04-29T17:26:13.419 Chart_1 ChartResize
2022-04-29T17:26:13.456 Chart_1 ChartResize
2022-04-29T17:26:13.456 Chart_1 ChartResize
2022-04-29T17:26:13.657 Exit Tf_main.FormShow
2022-04-29T17:26:13.657 ImageSetFocus
2022-04-29T17:26:13.757 Enter Tf_main.InitTimerTimer
2022-04-29T17:26:13.757 Exit Tf_main.InitTimerTimer
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 Chart Chart_1: RefreshTimer
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 Chart Chart_1: Refresh
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 Chart Chart_1: Get refresh lock
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 Chart Chart_1: Init 1942x1356
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 Chart Chart_1: Draw map
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Full Refresh
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init observatory
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init time
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init chart
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init coordinates
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Compute planet position
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: end Compute planet position
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init labels
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init colors
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Open catalogs
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: Init catalogs
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: begin drawing
2022-04-29T17:26:14.073 SkyChart Chart_1: draw milky way
2022-04-29T17:26:14.089 SkyChart Chart_1: draw alt/az EQ grid
2022-04-29T17:26:14.089 SkyChart Chart_1: draw deepsky objects
2022-04-29T17:26:14.105 SkyChart Chart_1: draw outlines
2022-04-29T17:26:14.105 SkyChart Chart_1: draw comets
2022-04-29T17:26:14.105 SkyChart Chart_1: draw grid
2022-04-29T17:26:14.105 SkyChart Chart_1: draw constellation figures
2022-04-29T17:26:14.121 SkyChart Chart_1: draw stars
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: draw double stars
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: draw variable stars
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: draw planets
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 Created C:\Users\moore\AppData\Local\Skychart\tmp\origin.txt
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: draw labels
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: Optimize labels
2022-04-29T17:26:14.174 SkyChart Chart_1: Labels optimized
2022-04-29T17:26:14.227 SkyChart Chart_1: draw horizon
2022-04-29T17:26:14.258 SkyChart Chart_1: draw grid
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 SkyChart Chart_1: draw chart border
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 SkyChart Chart_1: end drawing
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 SkyChart Chart_1: end Refresh
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 Chart Chart_1: Draw map end
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 Chart Chart_1: Release refresh lock
2022-04-29T17:26:14.275 Chart Chart_1: Refresh end
2022-04-29T17:26:23.147 Chart_1 MouseDown
2022-04-29T17:26:23.147 SetChildFocus Chart_1
2022-04-29T17:26:23.147 ImageSetFocus
2022-04-29T17:26:23.147 ImageSetFocus
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 Chart_1 Image1Click
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 SetChildFocus Chart_1
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 ImageSetFocus
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 ImageSetFocus
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 Chart_1 MouseUp
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 SkyChart Chart_1: Init catalogs
2022-04-29T17:26:23.364 SkyChart Chart_1: Init catalogs
2022-04-29T17:27:13.301 AutorefreshTimer
2022-04-29T17:28:13.309 AutorefreshTimer
2022-04-29T17:29:13.310 AutorefreshTimer
2022-04-29T17:30:13.307 AutorefreshTimer
2022-04-29T17:31:03.082 Stop TCP/IP server
2022-04-29T17:31:03.883 Exiting ...
2022-04-29T17:31:03.883 Destroy Tf_main
2022-04-29T17:31:03.899 Destroy Cursor
2022-04-29T17:31:03.899 Destroy end
2022-04-29T17:31:03.915 Destroy chart Chart_1
2022-04-29T17:31:03.946 End Destroy chart
2022-04-29T17:31:07.277 Stop TCP/IP server
2022-04-29T17:31:08.078 Exiting ...
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Thank you for the file, exactly what I need.
I am surprised by the location of the problem, a very simple function that set the program default values before to read the saved configuration.
The only non-trivial action is to ask Windows for an eventual default printer.
I try to reproduce the problem with different printer configuration but without success.
To be sure this is really the issue I make a test version where I remove this printer detection.
Can you install skychart-4.3-4496-windows-x64.exe from https://vega.ap-i.net/tmp/skychart/
Then test if it start normally. |
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The Beta version took the same length of time to open. Could it be a problem with my recent router change? The trace log mentions socket errors. I had to connect the printer to the new router and set the password. Printer is currently off. I got this reply from a guy that runs a tech firm. Maybe it helps, I don't understand most of it.
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djanello@gmail.com#2 days ago· 27 views
I run a tech firm, this behavior can arise from a network misconfiguration of the hostname on your PC or in the settings of your wifi router. It seems to impact Windows more than Linux/MacOS, especially the newer Windows 10 upgrades.
Even apps without networking can experience slowdowns.
This thread contains a possible solution.
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/4067fa31-81b6-47a6-92c6-2395aa42a118/reverse-dns-slow-or-not-working-at-all?forum=winserverPN |
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Hello - I hope you haven't given up on me as this problem is a pain. I had to start again from scratch outside in the early hrs of the morning and having to wait 40 secs is a pain. I have tried deleting AVG free and it makes no difference. I have tried reinstalling my other router but it seems to have failed so that's no good. I have reverted to the standard download instead of Beta with no change. Beta version was also 35 sec enable time. My workstation with Cartes normal version starts up in a few secs. Is it something remaining in the registry on my laptop that remains when I delete Cartes and reinstall? If so what can I do, there are so many entries. I I fired up Cartes on my laptop and workstation and made sure all the setup entries were the same but it didn't help. Basically I am out of my depth and still need help please.
Best regards,
David Moore |
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Hello David,
I am still searching in the CdC startup. I make a change that can save about one second on the startup time, but probably not related to your issue.
It is a good idea to try to totally reset CdC in the problematic computer.
CdC do not use the registry but only files in the directory %LOCALAPPDATA%\skychart (the place you find the trace file).
If you delete this directory you will start totally fresh.
Patrick |
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I tried deleting the dir you mentioned in Ciel with no change. As my workstation has the same version and you tell me there are no registry entries, I copied all of the ciel dir to a memory stick, deleted Cartes from my laptop and copied the ciel dir to my programs dir. It still started in 35 secs. I tries disabling AVG, no change. Something has happened on my laptop to slow Cartes loading and I don't know what it is. When I go into task manager as it is loading there are no signs of a problem. I don't have any extra star maps loaded. I am stuck!! Does this happen to anyone else? |
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I have solved this problem but reinstalling windows and deleting all progs and data. A bit drastic but nothing else worked. I had tried deleting some programs but that had no effect. At least it was easy to do but reinstalling everything is taking awhile with all the necessary passwords and fending off all the junk installations and intrusive software.
David Moore |
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Thank you for the information.
Yes this is a bit drastic and unfortunately not show the origin of the problem.
But the important point is it is back running normally. |
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